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When attaching images, why is the default "after more"· instead of "inline"?

Started by on Oct 08, 2016 – Contents updated: Oct 13, 2016

Oct 08, 2016 06:00    

I'm not saying my use case is "normal" but I find it counter productive that all images get attached as "after more" instead of "inline".
After all, if an article has many, most of them will be inserted inline in the text.
Now I'm updating over 200 articles, default "inline" attaching would sure save me a lotta time...

Oct 08, 2016 14:50

An image cannot be inline until you specify a position for the image in the text.

As soon as you put the cursor where you want it and click the green (+) icon, the image automatically becomes 'Inline'.

I don't understand how having broken Inline images BEFORE you click the (+) icon is saving time. It would be the same, except images would be temporarily broken.

Oct 08, 2016 15:33

@gerardp has a point. I was wondering about this, too. Never realised that hitting (+) automatically changes the image position. I went into the position drop-down to change the location and then placed the cursor in the text where I wanted the image.
Good to know that this can be done faster!

Oct 09, 2016 06:54

The point is Francois, that the image links are NOT broken.
They go under an <img> tag.
They are being replaced because your system is not truly mobile and I must, as I understand from a previous post of yours, replace all article images with attached ones, which all - by default - attach as "after more"
Good to find out that clicking the green plus suffices to make an image inline automatically...
Which is - evidently - not obvious.

Oct 09, 2016 15:39

When I say broken I mean: user attaches image, then saves post. If image donesn't display, then user says "doesn't work". If image was set as "inline" before clicking the insert icon, then this is what would happen.

Do you understand how these other users experience this?

If so, I'm open to suggestions to reconcile both.

Note:

  • on the one hand beginners will fail to display their images
  • on the other hand, you will absolutely be able to get what you want, just with one extra click until you learn you don't need and extra click

Which one is worse, globally?

Oct 09, 2016 18:06

I actually came across the same thing the other day. I thought there would be a per collection setting that could change the default, but not. I understand your argument Francois, but perhaps a per collection setting would make sense for advanced users?

Oct 09, 2016 21:45

Consider them reconciled, as far as I'm concerned.
Putting the cursor on the insertion point and then clicking the green plus works fine, and now knowing this saves me the tedious task of setting multiple images to "inline" first.
Thanks.

Oct 10, 2016 02:13

@achillis wrote earlier:

I actually came across the same thing the other day. I thought there would be a per collection setting that could change the default, but not. I understand your argument Francois, but perhaps a per collection setting would make sense for advanced users?

Again, advanced users don't need an extra click. A setting will not change anything to their workflow.

The only thing that makes sense to me is a dialog telling users something along the lines of "Hey, you just switched an image to "Inline". You should actually never need to do this. Instead, put your cursor where you want your image and click the green (+) icon. An appropriate short tag will be inserted into the post and the position attribute will change the inline automatically."

Making sense?

Oct 13, 2016 11:37

@fplanque wrote earlier:

Again, advanced users don't need an extra click. A setting will not change anything to their workflow.

The only thing that makes sense to me is a dialog telling users something along the lines of &quot;Hey, you just switched an image to &quot;Inline&quot;. You should actually never need to do this. Instead, put your cursor where you want your image and click the green (+) icon. An appropriate short tag will be inserted into the post and the position attribute will change the inline automatically.&quot;

Making sense?

I'v thought about it and think you are right. Also, I don't think a dialog is necessary either.


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