Try this. Istead of applying background image to "body" move it to ".skin_wrapper_loggedin" and ".skin_wrapper_anonymous" classes

.skin_wrapper_loggedin,
.skin_wrapper_anonymous {
	background: #3B4853 url(images/tech_bg_1.png) repeat-x;	
}

body {
	color: #252525;
	font-size: 0.8em;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}

Alas, I get a white background. And the #wrap div still drops down.

replace this

.skin_wrapper_loggedin,
.skin_wrapper_anonymous {
   background: #3B4853 url(images/tech_bg_1.png) repeat-x;   
}

with this

#skin_wrapper {
    background: #3B4853 url(images/tech_bg_1.png) repeat-x;   
}

You may need to fix errors related to mismatched <div> tags
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegreatennui.com%2Findex.php

Sam,

#skin_wrapper code inserted with no effect. I take your point about the order of <div> tags but fail to undertstand how to alter it. I have this at the top:

<div align="center">
<div id="widewrap">
<div id="wrap">

and this at the bottom:

</div><!-- end of wrap -->

</div><!-- end of widewrap -->
</div><!-- end of center -->

But highlighting in Notepad ++ or whatever picks up the wrong order! This I don't understand!

It's because you have extra open or closed <div> in either one of your posts or on the sidebar

When I saved a new layout the layout toolbar buttons were changed.

The new layout altered the order of the layout list in the Window menu and changing that order affected what layout the toolbar buttons correspond to.

Has anyone solved this problem? I cannot solve it by addressing any of the above issues.

tgodfrey wrote:

Has anyone solved this problem? I cannot solve it by addressing any of the above issues.

i guess you have solved your problem ? cause i dont see anything wrong on your site

The problem illustrated only occurs when I log in. It's still there.