I would be interested. Perhaps it will free your time a bit and you will be able to look at my pull requests d:

Huge backlog of todo lists indeed.

6.10-beta is available here with list of features: http://b2evolution.net/downloads/6-10-0-beta

I have been in the process of revamping my member and mailing list structure, etc. Great news: "The modules interfaces via SMTP with the mass email sending service of your choice." Can't say I'm technically qualified to test anything, but I can say this could be a great feature.

It would be great to learn more about the concept and potentials of automation within b2e and how to link this to campaigns and newsletters.
The manual gives only information about the fields but does not tell something on how to use it, A Case would be great. In Demo there is a sample, but nvertheless it is a lot of guessing, especially for those who are not really acquainted to automation like these.
Would be great

Thanks in advance, Will

I know I still need to document this. Do you have an idea in mind of what you'd like to do? If it's a good use case, I'll use it for the demo.

@fplanque I just wanted to test the feature and then to decide how to use them, especially in the context of campaigns. -

But one case I was looking for is to link users who unsubscribed a newsletter to a certain single page or to reply, that "unsubscribe" was successful. -

A second case - To reply to a newsletter subscription with a E-Mail in which necessary information towards GDPR are delivered and the subscriber is asked to confirm. In case of an missing confirmation the subsciption should bel paused. After 14 days the subscriber should be contacted again and asked to confirm GDPR policy and informed, that in case this does not occur, the subscription would be deleted.

Thanks, Will

OK, in that case, what you need is a button in a campaign that allows to set a specific usertag. I'll check if we already have that (I know it was on the todo list).

Sidenote: about your first use case, don't you think that it's little bit ridiculous that if a user declares "I don't want to receive any more email from you" you want to immediately send him another email to say "Here is an email to say we are not bothering you with email any more". It is displayed on the user's screen that the unsubscribe is successful, right after he clicks.

@fplanque thanks for your reply.

To your sidenote: I generally agree; but in my own experience I had unsubscribed Newsletter and did still got further mailings.. So; i myself prefer getting a confirmation, at best not by another e-Mail but by a Message Page on the Website. I think this is a consumer friendly act. :-) But may be this depends on mentality.

@saunders
@fplanque

Then add another button

[Please click here to confirmation that you want one last email confirming that you don't want any more.] lol

and maybe

Warning that if you chose not to click on the (link/button) that you accept you will receive no confirmation and never be sure your request was acted upon, not that you really can, and that if you chose to continue with further inaction or action; and if any action/inaction is successful it may well be that it cannot be undone.

Goodbye for what could be an eternity unless our quantum programmed database decides to contact you without further input on our part.

How about a checkbox like:

V Send me a weekly status report to confirm whether or not I am still unsubscribed

;>>

@saunders more seriously, our unsubscribe process is real-time. Now, if 80% of the other websites have a broken unsubscribe process that cannot transmit unsubscribe requests in real time to the mailing agent, does it mean we have to emulate the same mediocrity? If users have been trained not to trust what they see on screen, can we not make it up with unambiguous wording on screen rather than a dirty additional email? I think our current unsubscribe message is really unambiguous. You want another page. What more would you say on it?

also, I will argue that the dirty additional email is NOT GDPR compliant because the user has already withdrawn content to receive emails from you related to topic x.

@amoun @fplanque I hope I made your day :-)

What caused my request, that sounded so crude to you? When I tried to unsubscribe a newsletter (for testing) I got no reaction. Today I set up a new test and tried to unsubscribe again. And now I got the two step confirmation. That's what I asked for. By the first test obviously something went wrong. I repeated testing. Now every unsubscribe worked as it should

Here is, what I asked for and what the systems delivers:

Urgent question:

How to provide a Newsletter exclusively for members of a special group within a special collection, that is to say without offering a subscription to all registered users of all collections?

Context: I want to offer a newsletter for registered customer who paid for that content. So I am not interested that others can subscribe without having paid for it.

How can I manage this?
Thanks and Regards, Will

@saunders So are your paid users already in a specific user group in b2evolution?

@saunders would the following work for you?

@fplanque yes, the users who pay for content are in a special group within a collection

Does your image ("Active become 'anyone can subscribe'") illustrate an upcoming feature or does it illustrate, that I only have to deactivate a list to make it exclusive for a special group?

Upcoming feature.

I'm not sure the list will send emails if you make it inactive.

That feature has been added: https://b2evolution.net/man/email-list-general-settings

Furthermore, we have some documentation about automations now: https://b2evolution.net/man/automations/

@fplanque

To late to request a feature?

A lot of sites send out Happy Birthday emails or Anniversary of Registration Date emails or date based follow up emails.

Can we get this?

I suppose the trigger date would come from their user profile. Birth date they would set. Registration date is automatically set already, at least in User List but not profile.

My use case would be 3-6 months or one year registration anniversary. I'm manually adding users(sending an invite code/url) that are purchasers of certain ebay items. They get access to a wiki/docs collection on my b2evo site. I'm wanting to send follow up emails that will hopefully turn into good product reviews.

Currently, at Users >> Settings, User Fields, there is no date based field, even when creating a new custom field.

thx

I'm adding this to the feature request list.

Cool. Ought to round it out nicely.

thanks

We'll be adding birthday to the user profiles as a hardcoded thing because we'll use it for some other things (like minimum age for entering forums).

For sending birthday / anniversary emails, we'll probably use an email Automation.

Hi

Just some input on birthday data.

a) Regarding min age, people can and will lie ~ I certainly do :) So it is more of a fasle face lifting feature than a security check.

b) If it were truthfull data it is a security risk. Many banks and officials use DoB as a security check. The last thing I would want is that info on a website, especially if that info is accessible and let's face most info is.

c) Thirdly doesn't it go someway to wards holding personal data and thn bring b2evo closer to the need to notify the user that information about them is being held and can be requested and deleted etc.

So when you say hard coded I hope you still intend for it to be an option, but I can't how it can be an option if you reuire it for age related security.

For age related security would it not be enough to juat ask a user to confirm thier age is ** and leave it at that.

Other birthday info shoul be a choice and the user warned that such info may compromise other security uses.

@amoun

a,b,c : tell me something I don't know ;) We do this because it also fits the use case of client who uses this for their intranet.
You can also use this for private "large family" websites.

need to notify the user that information about them is being held and can be requested and deleted etc.

It's the same issue already with firstname / lastname.

So when you say hard coded I hope you still intend for it to be an option

Of course. And especially admin can ask only for year or only for month + day.

but I can't how it can be an option if you reuire it for age related security.

It's easy: no year available -> no security check available.

For age related security would it not be enough to juat ask a user to confirm thier age is ** and leave it at that.

In many cases, yes.

Other birthday info shoul be a choice and the user warned that such info may compromise other security uses.

Have you ever seen b2evolution require anything more than login + password + email unless the admin checks some boxes?

Btw, we're goign to make login optional (and deduct it from email instead).

Wow! Thanks for the detailed reply.

Problem in setting CTA short tag working

Just tried to set CTA Buttons in a mailing of a campaign (see fig.1, screenshot snippet of a mail) Although EMail elements renderer plugin is set to (opt-out) die short tags are not rendered.

fig2 shows settings in collections's plugin;

fig3 shows Plugin Setting in E-Mail>Camaign>Plugin)

I can't fugure out who to get this working. Could anyone tell me, please?

Thanks and Regards, Will

*Solved
set Email-Elements to "always" now it works