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1 Aug 24, 2020 23:57    

I'm frighteningly new at this. I likely unset something and can't figure out where to unset it.

  • When Logged out the form loads promptly, but it looks as though the js is dropping a "hidden" class on the text area as soon as it loads.
  • When logged in the form behaves properly

Things that make me feel this is a site problem not a collections issue

  • I swapped skins to make sure I hadn't screwed up the skin files and it made no difference
  • I added a brand new collection and had the same problem.

Since the action is taking place at the level of the element, I don't think I could have altered anything that would make that happen (not something done in CSS or even in one of the php files), but I've muddled so much with this between setting up multiple domains and such, ANYTHING is possible!

Showing that comments are enabled for the post

Text Area Missing from Comment form when logged out

Showing the lack of text area

Text Area Missing from Comment form when logged out

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Hat

2 Aug 25, 2020 00:48

Some how you have the visibility of the text box as hidden, please check any css you have added that may have done this. Though on reading you post again I see it does appear as a style issue, not a class issue so you may be right in it being a js insert.

I suppose you could start by disabling any plugins an widgets you have on that container.

You said you have "muddled so much with this between setting up multiple domains and such, ANYTHING is possible!" could you not just reinstall ??

EDIT

Have you tried a different skin? I'm using 7.1.7 bootstrap_manual_skin with no problem and by the way do you want anonymous user able to comment anyway?? Just checking :)

3 Aug 25, 2020 05:29

UPDATE: I gave up and shut off comments for folks not logged in. Beats reinstalling and starting over.

Hi, thanks so much for the quick response.

Here is what I can tell you:
TinyMCE is the culprit. I disabled it and I have text boxes (but obviously no wysiwyg ).
So I did a fresh install into another directory for comparison. The TinyMCE plugin settings match my current site.

As I said I would have had to edit the js to jam that visibility:hidden on the element like that and then it would still be there when logged in, which it isn't.

I mentioned that I did try different skins, which is why I figure this must be a problem at the site level.

At first I will probably want to leave comments open to the unregistered user. But I suppose that could be an option if it came down to it. Especially since I would rather not have to reinstall since it has taken me a month of Sundays (quite literally) to get it this far. I passed the point of a willing reinstall about two weeks ago. This is the last thing that is misbehaving and I am hoping I don't have to wipe out everything just to fix one error.

QUESTION,
I deleted the TinyMCE plugin from the plugin panel and reinstalled it there, but I have a sense that that process wouldn't fix any corruption in the script. Is there a way to refresh the files for a plugin? I mean, like pull a fresh download of it?

Again, thanks for the thoughts!

4 Aug 25, 2020 08:17

Hi. Yes not having anon comments is the easy option. The only way I can see of getting the plugin in through a fresh download and extraction from the zipped file. Sorry I missed didn't register that you had tried other skins, that's a regular the problem I have in answering quickly :)

I'll activate anon comments and the plugin to see what I get.

Meanwhile I have just checked the files in my 7.1.7 version and there is no html code that creates [style="visibility:hidden"] so I've zipped the plugin and attached it. There are only 3 js files and one php file to search.

All the best

Further note: I never use tinyMCE but 25K file size seems very small ???


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5 Aug 25, 2020 08:54

Confirmation of your problem :)
Ok so I have enabled anon comments and enabled the plugin and get what you have. I note that the basic [Markup] option works fine but when I click on the [WYSIWYG] I get a no go stop sign and can't even get back to the [Markup] option.

I'm about to install an older tinyMce version

OK done that and it seems fine

I used a version from 6.10.5 and edited the version number in [_tinymce.plugin.php] from 6.10.5 to 7.1.7 and then uploaded the whole plugin to overwrite the proper 7.1.7

have zipped that and attached.

I know this is obvious to someone of your ability but i) I changed the name of the current [plugins/foldertinymice_plugin] by adding a 7 then after unzipping :) ii)uploaded the new folder and removed the V6 from the name

Then back to the back office and [Reloaded] all plugins

Strange thing I still can't switch back to [Markup] without reloading the page ?? So something is amiss as that happens even when I am logged in ??

You can see it working for example at https://calstock.org.uk/vow.php/manufacturers/sunita-foods


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6 Aug 25, 2020 14:56

Thanks so much, Amoun.

First, never underestimate the level of my probable stupidity. Thanks so much for the detailed instructions.

Before I shut off anon comments, I did replace the plugin with a fresh version, and yeah, nada.

Here's the weirdness: On the fresh install I did, untouched out of the box, it functions just as yours does (see untouched install here: https://plainhat.com/trash/index.php/a/extended-post )

I am off to try the older plugin and I'll keep you posted. Sadly, somewhere in here I need to attend to my paying work.

Harriet

7 Aug 25, 2020 18:06

By the way ~ I've been investigating ~ a little ~ the [_tinymce.plugin.php] differences in the version 6 and 7 which is what the mermaid plugin post is about https://forums.b2evolution.net/mermaid-plugin-1

Noting your avatar image, here's a friend's cat that somehow got into a box.

Oops! Sorry cats that tinyMCE not tiny mice :)

8 Aug 26, 2020 00:55

AH the picture finally got here! Love it.. and yeah, mine loves the meeeses but not nearly as much as I am disliking the MCEs

Thanks again for all your help. I've not yet tried the old version, but may give it a shot before all is said and done. At least I know it wasn't just me!


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