You left off "none" and "doesn't matter as long as I can disable it" from the list of options.

The thing to me is that I've never seen one that actually works reliably, and all of them will bloat the hell out of the time it takes to download the admin area. Remember dialup? So for me I'd rather see none at all, or at the very least be able to disable it AND all the bloat that will come with it in the form of included javascript.

I personally don't care. Wicked fast connection and probably ample ability to hack it out, but that doesn't mean every user out there is in the same situation is what I mean.

Hi EdB,

Somehow I expected this reply from you. ;)
Don't despair. Most likely it's only a plugin shipped with B2evolution. No hacking required.

--F

Afwas wrote:

Somehow I expected this reply from you. ;)

Yeah. I'm like Don Quixote only I don't have a horse. Or a ... damn I always forget what that thing is called. The stick they used to carry when they were riding a horse and wanted to poke somebody with it only DQ tried to poke windmills with his cuz he was nuts. A poke-a-windmill-stick? That can't be! Anyway I also don't have a long stick that I can poke someone with when I'm riding the horse I don't have.

But yeah the bloat that goes ignored is, to me, disgraceful. Just to pull all the tabs and comments out of a skin can shave 10% off the downloaded file size, but OMG developers love to see stuff indented so everyone has to have a super-fat pipe. To download tabs and comments. So I always trim the fat.

Another one is the styles for the calendar. Like it or not, here it comes! Even better is every single bit of style for "FigZone" because IT ISN'T USED ANYWHERE IN THE SOFTWARE!!! Yeah browsers cache that stuff, but not if a visitor on dialup doesn't feel like waiting all day for your page to load.

Javelin! It's a javelin right? Or was that a late 60s / early 70s "wow I'm cool" car?

Oh and yes it will be nice to see one as it has always been up there on the list of things peeps want.

Hopefully whatever comes out isn't simply popular but is (a) XHTML compliant and (b) integrates very gracefully when upgrading an existing installation.

IMHO, WYSIWYG editor should be integrated in b2evolution as plugins so the administrator could choose one.

WYSIWYG editors will remain plugins. We'll just provide better integration and bundle one by default. Probably TinyMCE because it's the best WYSIWYG plugin we have so far -- thanks to blueyed.

There will always be an option NOT to use wysiwyg.

EdB wrote:

damn I always forget what that thing is called.

spear?

EdB wrote:

But yeah the bloat that goes ignored is, to me, disgraceful. Just to pull all the tabs and comments out of a skin can shave 10% off the downloaded file size, but OMG developers love to see stuff indented so everyone has to have a super-fat pipe. To download tabs and comments. So I always trim the fat.

... coming from the guy who absolutely wants widget markup to have lots of newlines? :p

EdB wrote:

Another one is the styles for the calendar.

What do you mean?

EdB wrote:

Like it or not, here it comes! Even better is every single bit of style for "FigZone" because IT ISN'T USED ANYWHERE IN THE SOFTWARE!!!

Coming from a guy who gets pissed off when a new release kills a skin from a previous release?

Hey this post is so off topic you should move it to somewhere else.

Also this whole thread should NOT be sticky and probably should be in feature requests, not in support. -- edit: I just moved it and unstrickied it, as well as some other of my own sticky things that had no business being sticky.

fplanque wrote:

Also this whole thread should NOT be sticky and probably should be in feature requests, not in support. -- edit: I just moved it and unstrickied it, as well as some other of my own sticky things that had no business being sticky.

This forum gets lots more views, and it's always good to get user feedback yeah? ;)

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EdB, you might want to check out the tinymce_plugin (preferably from SVN): it allows to change the user's "use wtf/wysiwyg editor" setting by a single button (below the editor).
(It's installable on the test server: http://test.b2evolution.net/HEAD/blogs/admin.php?blog=1&ctrl=plugins&action=list_available&login=admin&pwd=demopass).

@blueyed A good implementation for wysiwyg.

Okay that looks mighty cool! Except for quoting behaves oddly. Like, I selected a bit of text and it decided to make everything in the current paragraph be the quoted bit. Also had a hard time figuring out how to get out of quote mode.

That's kinda my beef with wizzywigs: even though see-the-codes aren't visually pleasing it doesn't take too much to figure out what's going on. Or maybe I'm just accustomed to it?

EdB wrote:

Javelin! It's a javelin right?

Lance. :)

And that's my entire contribution to this thread. :D

TinyMCE is popular, I like it. But I like FCKeditor better.

WYMeditor is ok but TinyMCE is popular. FCKeditor is also better.

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